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From: not-2-disclose@the.net
Subject: MS-DOS Kermit, more incapabalities
Message-ID: <021000015401not-2-disclose@the.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:02:54 GMT
Organization: Sympatico
To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
Y'ello Steve,
About "Re: MS-DOS Kermit, more incapabalities" of February 7 and 8:
> ...no one at the present time is working to implement Zmodem in MS-DOS
> Kermit. Zmodem isn't in the plans for MSK, sorry. ...the Zmodem
> support in K95 is there because somebody donated... I have no plans
> of touching zmodem file transfer material.
MS> ...NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT PLANS FOR THE FUTURE.
SM> I for one plan on...
Have i not stated - REPEATEDLY - that i was a DOS user, MANY TIMES? You
INSIST on posting ME and you can't think of anything else but MicroSoft
for your 2nd sentence?! Oh, my! "Systems Administrator" is not exactly
the title i would imagine for a guy who can't remember a simple idea!...
Moreover, i can't care less about what *YOU* plan - especially if you're
a Slave of MicroSoft. Hummm... By the way, i's most probably guys like
that who will not refund `Win 9x' when a client specifically asks for an
alternative ~OS~...
Let me refresh your memory, in case that function of your brain has been
impaired irremediably... January 1, "MS-DOS Kermit, more capabalities":
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I introduce myself, i'm a DOS_InterNet user... ...i looked for DOS INet
FreeWare/ShareWare programs in hope that i'd get my hands on some piece
of software which can be run even on a minimum setup, meaning: - 8088
4,77 Mhz ~CPU~ ... - No Hard-Disk ... - DOS v3.3... To upgrade the
hardware or to switch to protocols like ~FTP~/~HTTP~ *IS NOT* an option.
Most unfortunately, `Kermit' doesn't included the `ZMoDem' file transfer
protocol... I would welcome postings from people who happen to be doing
fine `ZMoDem'/`Kermit' transfers using no more than the minimum setup...
I tried a lot of packet drivers and ~TelNet~ "shims"...
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[...]
SM> What else do you plan for *but* the future??
Oh boy! Now, are we getting down to semantics or what? Well, if that's
about semantics then i'm afraid that's just another mind game... YOU DO
NOT ACKNOWLEDGE A CLEAR STATEMENT I REPEATED, i can't really expect more
from you (future plans/plans for the future - nice try but don't pretend
you have tried too much)! In case you would change your attitude, i was
thinking about the plan of the plans (in a way, it would be to INTENTION
what the plans are to the MEANS by which a problem is to be resolved)...
Someone's intention gives rise to ideas, ideas eventually lead to a more
immediate problem-solving process where that problem is broken down into
smaller parts... There's no such thing as "THE plan", the answer rarely
pre-exists in the formulation of the problem itself; instead, you would
have little choice but to try to resolve the problem part by part, which
implies that some parts have to be dealt with after some others; hence,
the nuance i have made. %-7 It was clear that no `ZMoDem' addition for
`MS-Kermit' was UNDER WAY but i didn't find one single passage where the
team has declared `ZMoDem' Off-Limits, AT PRIORI. What's under scrutiny
RIGHT NOW tells you nothing about the team's intents; i asked them many
times but no answer ever came... I saw nothing to support or go against
my impression that the team already has decided to ignore a `ZMoDem' for
`MS-Kermit' topic... A clear statement was never issued. Kapish?! :-o
If that's not obvious enough then go ask your boss about the nuance!...
SM> C'mon Michel... cut it out... YOU'RE KILLING US out here!!
CA> I told the Kaptain Kermit boys they could be nice, they ignored me,
CA> now Michel is angry.
SM> So that excuses the howling misstatements and (deliberate?)
SM> obtuseness of his post?
This topic displeases you but THAT'S THE VERY PART YOU RETAIN YOURSELF?!
Good! If you feel like it, go ahead and CHOKE ON IT! What can i say?!!
You quickly joined the team to add a contribution in your own "style"...
let's hope you can recall your own actions, do you?... If you want this
to stop there's only one solution and you still got a lot of thinking to
do before you can find out what it is! So much for obtuseness... Did i
read "misstatements"? Yeah, i guess i did! Well, that's for you to say
but you don't seem to be ready to back-up those lies with facts that can
be verified. By the way, are you pushing the $elling of `Kermit' book$,
by any chance? It would put thing$ in per$pective...
SM> ...being such an avid practitioner of revisionist history...
What is it that you are trying to do yourself?! 8-o Only controversial
topics appear to inspire you, why is that? Are you only thriving on the
other's ideas?!! Aren't you willing to try your best at making your own
share, to participate to the creation of a parcel of history?!? It's no
wonder you feel an urge to protest on anything which doesn't suit you...
Try something constructive for a change!!! Why can't/won't you start a
topic of your own instead of silently discarding the many topics related
to `MS-Kermit' (i.e. the `Kermit' program - not its maintainers)?! %-o
CA> Do we need to know your job title or does it tickle your scrotum to
CA> see it in print?
SM> So to sum up here we see Charles: - slamming kermit as being
SM> outdated... ... - excusing Michel's laughable post... ...no beer.
Maybe Charles missed it but not by much: actually it's more like a few
inches behind! ;-D) The rest, i can't but agree: September '97 that's
a hell of a time for thinking about FUTURE PLANS!... Oh, and my post is
making you laugh?!? Well, be my guest but if you're laughing because of
a bunch of so-called educated morrons, euh... "so-called educated", not
"so-called morrons" because we've got the certitude that they're morrons
all right, euh... Anyway, the team tought they could play to mind games
with a newcommer - which came to them in good faith (and then i'm afraid
that you're own system of values is a bit offset too) - that's pathetic.
Michel Samson
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* Peculiar bucolic scene: Steve M. comes to a stop, takes a break... *
* lets you see a little bit more of the whiteness around his immense *
* eyes and then... and then pinch your nose and run for your life! *
* *
* A thought inspired by Columbia's University `Kermit-95' task force. *
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